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February 26th, 2009 by Derek | Filed under Comic Book Noise.Podcast: Play in new window | Download
Host Derek Coward clearly defines what he is and how that sets him apart from other comics readers and other people with comic book shows. If you listen really closely, there is also a review of the Family Matter graphic by Will Eisner.
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My name is Chris and I read comic books.
I used to like Dennis Miller.
i really don't like Dane Cook.
I have always referred to comc books as comics. I don't see anything wrong with it. When I was a kind we used to trade comics. I don't see anything wrong with calling comic books – comics. I have never been embarrased it is just what I have always called them. So does my family.
Mike, you may have always referred to comic books as comics, but you don't ALWAYS refer to them as comics. I have heard you use the phrase 'comic books' at times. There are people who go out of their way to avoid using 'comic books' and those are the people who aggravate me at times.
I've never been ashamed to tell people I read comic books. But I also mostly just say "comics" mostly because I just don't think about it like being ashamed or whatever to say "comic books." That's why I didn't use those words in the DC Noise show description I sent you. I never even thought about using them to help with the search terms in iTunes.
I have also been annoyed at people calling collected editions or trades "graphic novels" though.
I wasn't necessarily talking about the other Family members. I just found it a bit interesting that none of you used the phrase in the descriptions. It's not an indictment of anybody I'm connected with. There are other people out there that are a lot more blatant in their avoidance. With you guys, I always got the impression that you never thought much of it. There's a difference between not thinking and avoiding.
Derek:
1) Thanks for the shout out!
2) I totally agree with you about graphic novels…it infuriates me. And you know where it REALLY infuriates me? When movies come out "inspired by the XX graphic novel." In almost every case, they've actually been inspired by the "comic book limited series" and not a graphic novel.
3) You lost me a bit in the "comics" vs. "comic book" thing though. I guess most of the people I know in this hobby say "I read comics" and not "I read comic books." I usually say the former but not for any intentional plan to avoid the term "comic book." But where I think your argument falls flat is that it ignores the very history of the genre. Today's top two publishers aren't "DC Comic Books Inc." and "Marvel Comic Book Corp."; they are DC COMICS and Marvel Entertainment [formerly known as Marvel Comics]. And then you have Image Comics [not Image Comic Books], Dark Horse Comics [not Dark Horse Comic Books]. And lest we think this is a new thing b/c of the industry trying to diversify itself, let's remember that back in the day we had "EC Comics" not EC Comic Books, and "Timely Comics" not Timely Comic Books, and "Atlas Comics" not Atlas Comic Books.
You feel me?
1) When I think of smart guys, you come to mind.
2) That is exactly what drives me crazy about this resurgence in mainstream interest in comic books. Unlike a lot of people I can't wait for Hollywood to be bored with it all and go back to make sequels of remakes or remakes of sequels or whatever non creative foolishness they can come up with.
3) I seem to have lost a lot of people with this argument. However, if you think about it a lot of people who got into the industry didn't want to be in the industry, they wanted to be in the Comic STRIP business, so it was probably easy for people who were trying to recruit new creators to make them believe they were part of a strip syndicate, instead of being a part of the comic BOOK industry. I also find it telling that a lot of people leave the word 'Comics' off when talking about those companies even further distancing themselves.
No it's cool. I know what you were saying wasn't some kind of accusation or whatever. I just wanted to say where I stand on the subject. I do understand your point that a lot of podcasters and others do try to avoid the terms comic books. I don't know if it's people in the industry necessarily who are guilty of this but definitely whenever there is a movie made like in Jason's 2nd example there is a glaring omission of saying "comic book". However I have seen and heard some creators refer to their comic books as "sequential art", which always seemed a little snooty to me.
I should just cut-n-paste the comment from Chris, substituting my name for his.