According to the good folks over at ‘Screen Crush’, Kevin Feige from Marvel Studios said ‘Marvel’s The Avengers’ was almost given an R rating. Their whole article can be found here.
This makes a lot of sense to me. Comic book fans are used to seeing things like Blue Beetle getting his brains shot out through his face, Captain America hitting someone in their face with his shield, or Wolverine snikting people all over the place, non comic book fans aren’t necessarily immune to this type of violent imagery. I’m glad they made the cuts needed because they opened the film to a much larger audience.
Host Derek Coward talks about Marvel’s deal with Netflix to develop four news series leading to a miniseries event and how that is part of Marvel’s cinematic strategy. He also gives an update on his offer for a new Comic Book Podcast Show.
The setup: Havok, the “leader” of the Uncanny Avengers, is meeting the Young Scott Summers from the past. At this time in his life, Scott doesn’t know much about his brother Alex beyond the fact that he has been adopted by a nice family.
Steve Rogers and the Avengers had gotten their asses handed to them in Australia, so he drags the Uncanny Avenger team to hijack the X-Men plane so that Alex can talk to Scott. Remember that these two are virtually strangers to one another, but when has not thinking things through ever stopped Steve Rogers.
When the two meet face to face and Scott realizes who he’s talking with, Rogers says this:
What a fucking douchebag! Even Thor and Scarlet Witch had to tell him to chill the fuck out, it’s brother stuff. Think about that for a second, the brother of Loki and the sister of Quicksilver have to tell somebody to shut up and let siblings talk. And they have tried to beat the hell out of their brothers before.
Then, when young Jean Grey reads the mind of Scarlet Witch and finds out about the MILLIONS of mutants she killed, she goes all Jean Grey on her ass. The situation is defused, but what does Rogers say then…
He is actively protecting the murderer of millions and just shrugs it off with “none of that matters right now”.
After making what he has to know are baseless accusations against the younger version of the guy who kicked his ass more than once and his friends, Rogers sends them on their way, then says this:
Havok just responds with “Yeah” but without any further context or word balloons. Personally, I like to think Alex was saying “Yeah” but thinking “Yeah, you would say that but this is the same guy that kicked your sorry ass so I’m pretty sure he had better days than today. Asshole.”
Host Derek Coward starts talking about the Aquaman/Justice League crossover ‘Throne Of Atlantis’ and ends up talking a lot about company crossovers. There is also an update about the Marvel AR app and its functionality.
I was reading Invincible Iron Man #172, which happened during the Demon In A Bottle/Iron Man Rhodey phase, when I came across this bit of Bully Rogers living up to his name.
At this time Tony Stark is drinking on a dirty mattress in the poor part of town. The last thing he needs is Steve Rogers (in full costume) walking in and knocking the bottle out of his hand. When faced with a steroid rage bully with an indestructible shield that he uses as a weapon on a regular basis, Tony just wants to be left alone to drink.
Bully Rogers throws his father under the bus.
As pitiful as Tony is at this moment, Rogers turns around and walks out of the room (after spilling the man’s booze). Before he leaves, Rogers casually throws out there that his father was an alcoholic. However, Rogers’ father died when he was a child. So Rogers made it up to make a broken man feel even worse or he took time out to admit his father was a criminal who was an alcoholic during Prohibition. Either way, Steve Rogers proved in that one panel that he was a scumbag on top of being a bully.
This story happened back in 1983, so I have to wonder how long as Steve Rogers been a bully. I will keep reading older comics and each time I come across Bully Rogers, I will be sure to share it.
BTW: The villain Firebrand was also in that Skid Row flophouse without his costume on. When he saw Captain America stroll in there, he assumed the jackass was looking for him, so he suited up and set fire to a bunch of stuff. None of which would have happened if it wasn’t for a Bully on the Stroll.
Host Derek Coward takes a look at A+X 3 and 4, name checks Collected Comics Library, tells what book he wishes Marvel would print, and explains (again) why he dislikes the comic book version of Captain America.
Even though Comic Book Noise is NOT a democracy, but rather a benevolent dictatorship, host Derek Coward has decided to let a dissenting opinion be heard. The host for this show is Steve Zinodas and the show name is Noob’s Views Episode 1. However, please remember that this is Not Comic Book Noise.
BTW: The real title is Noob’s Views 001 – Why I SALUTE Captain America