Host Derek Coward talks about his latest disasters, as well as Zenith Phase One Apex Edition.
Host Derek Coward talks about the not new trend of the comic book industry and its hate for heroic superheroes.
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In the forum thread for Episode 203, Jason Wood from the 11 O’Clock Comics podcast posted this:
“Fun episode Derek.
I listened today while driving around doing some errands.
You probably already know this, but Great Ten sold so terribly that it’s actually a surprise they kept it 9 issues and didn’t cut it off sooner.
11/2009: The Great Ten #1 of 10 — 13,159
12/2009: The Great Ten #2 of 10 — 8,760 (-33.4%)
01/2010: The Great Ten #3 of 10 — 7,458 (-14.9%)
02/2010: The Great Ten #4 of 10 — 6,812 (- 8.7%)
03/2010: The Great Ten #5 of 10 — 6,555 (- 3.8%)
This is among the worst selling DC universe titles ever. I haven’t read it myself so I can’t speak to the quality and I know you’re enjoying. But this is just one of those books that was either poorly marketed or just didn’t resonate with buyers.”
Unfortunately for me, I didn’t know the sales numbers for The Great Ten. If I had, I probably wouldn’t have gotten to attached to the title and the characters. I responded with:
“Damn, those numbers make me sad. This just reinforces my belief that while they say different superhero comic book fans do NOT want differently told stories about new characters.
The storytelling is more like the first season of LOST than something like Blackest Night (at least what I read of BN) or Secret Invasion, which are straight forward ‘bad guys attack, good guys fight back’ stories.
It was written by an up and coming writer who was on a major project (Countdown may have sucked in spots but it was definitely major) and on a critically favored book (R.E.B.E.L.S.) instead of one of the usual suspects (I understand why Morrison, Johns, Bendis and Millar have been in charge of their respective universes, but usually I have enjoyed more of the tie-ins not written by them than their main minis).
The characters were created within the past few years instead of the past few decades. 52 was only four years ago.
The next time I see creators like Erik Larsen or Tony Harris talk about how people need to try new things, I will think back to the complete and utter failure of The Great Ten. Not only was it a sales disaster, but this failure has also proven that it makes no sense for me to support anything new in the single issue format. For the past few years, my pull list usually consists of miniseries (The Great Ten, Daytripper, Tangent: Superman’s Reign, etc) or indie books (The Sword, 28 Days Later, True Story Swear To God, etc) because I know that anything even slightly mainstream will be collected at a later date.
Now, regardless of whether I feel it is worth supporting, I will just have to wait for the trade. If it never gets collected, oh well, bad for me. And if I forget to buy the trade, then oh well, bad for them.”
I wrote that and crossposted here, so that from this moment on if anyone asks me where I stand on the “Big Two needs to freshen things up” argument, they can just read this and come to their own conclusions.
This was HUGE week for me. Not only did a bunch of books that I was looking for finally come in, but I also went to TWO shops this week and went a little crazy in the dollar bin of one of them.
New This Week:
True Story Swear To God 12 (Image Comics) – I already read and reviewed this issue. Short answer: get it now (unless you have no love in your heart, then just stick with Blackest Night/Siege).
Girl Comics 1 of 3(Marvel Comics) – Again read and reviewed. Again I recommend you pick it up.
The Great Ten 5 of 10 (DC Comics) – I still think this is the best book coming out from DC and I can’t wait to get the time to read it.
The Sword 22 (Image Comics) – This title is coming to an end soon and I will miss it.
Kevin Smith’s Green Hornet 1 (Dynamite Entertainment) – I’m looking forward to the entire sub-line of Green Hornet books.
First Wave 1 of 6 (DC Comics) – This is the only book I am not completely sold on, but I think this might surprise me.
Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep 9 (BOOM! Studios) – Still a good title and I look forward to it every month.
Age of Bronze: Betrayal Part One TPB (Image Comics) – I decided last week to switch from single issues to trades for this title.
Siege 2 of 4 (Marvel Comics) – I finally found a copy and I’m looking forward to The Sentry vs Ares.
Starman 81 (DC Comics) – Why not, I have a vast majority of the rest of the issues. I might be missing two or three. Maybe as many as six.
Nexus: Space Opera 101/102 (Rude Dude Productions) – I had not idea this even came out, which sucks because I have looking forward to each issue and I doubt there will be any others.
Naoki Urasawa’s 20th Century Boys (Viz Media) – I wanted to get Pluto Vol 1, but since they didn’t have it, I picked this up and special ordered Pluto. I want to go on record as saying that I am picking Pluto up on the recommendation of Ryan King, so if I don’t like it, I will blame him. Just kidding, I will blame Vince B.
From The Dollar Bin:
Prophet 5 and 6 (Image Comics) – The only issue of Prophet I have is 7, so it will be nice to see how we got to that point.
Incredible Herc 116/119/120/121 (Marvel Comics) – I have never read a single issue of Incredible Herc, but I heard a lot of good things about it.
War of Kings 2 of 6 (Marvel Comics) – I read the first issue and nothing after that, but I liked it and I want to check it out for a dollar.
Dazzler 26 (Marvel Comics) – I have never read an issue of Dazzler, but this one is the beginning of “The Startling Secret of Dazzler’s Sister.” Plus, there were a LOT of issues of Dazzler in the dollar bin.
Final Crisis 4 of 7 (DC Comics) – I stopped buying after issue 3, but a dollar, why not?
Justice League of America Vol 1 37 (DC Comics) – The cover is torn, but for some reason, I don’t think I have ever read this issue.
Tales of The Teen Titans 81 (DC Comics) – I got this because the creative team is Marv Wolfman, John Byrne and Jose Luis Garcia Lopez. Hall of Famer Creators FTW!!!
Imperial Guard 2 (Marvel Comics) – This has a cover date of Feb 97, but I had no idea this title even existed until I saw it for a dollar.
Fantastic Four 557 (Marvel Comics) – I missed the entire Millar/Hitch/Currie run, so when I saw it so cheaply, I thought I would check it out.
Bullet Points 1 or 5 (Marvel Comics) – I have no idea what this is about, but Tommie Lee Edwards drawing the original gray Iron Man. C’mon.
Give Me Liberty 3 (Dark Horse Comics) – Once again, never read any of the Martha Washington stuff, so why not for a dollar (notice a trend?)
Plus, even though I need about three or four long boxes, I picked up one.