Host Derek Coward talks about his favorite comic books of 2010.
Hosts Derek Coward and Angela talk about pictures in the wild, new comics, Madame Xanadu, Homicide: A Year On The Killing Streets (not Fields), Treme, Incredible Hulk scans, Avengers comic books, Daytripper trades vs issues, how to hack a bag sale, new schools and birthday parties, TV shows, Louis CK, Veronica Mars vs Buffy and breakfast recommendations.
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In the forum thread for Episode 203, Jason Wood from the 11 O’Clock Comics podcast posted this:
“Fun episode Derek.
I listened today while driving around doing some errands.
You probably already know this, but Great Ten sold so terribly that it’s actually a surprise they kept it 9 issues and didn’t cut it off sooner.
11/2009: The Great Ten #1 of 10 — 13,159
12/2009: The Great Ten #2 of 10 — 8,760 (-33.4%)
01/2010: The Great Ten #3 of 10 — 7,458 (-14.9%)
02/2010: The Great Ten #4 of 10 — 6,812 (- 8.7%)
03/2010: The Great Ten #5 of 10 — 6,555 (- 3.8%)
This is among the worst selling DC universe titles ever. I haven’t read it myself so I can’t speak to the quality and I know you’re enjoying. But this is just one of those books that was either poorly marketed or just didn’t resonate with buyers.”
Unfortunately for me, I didn’t know the sales numbers for The Great Ten. If I had, I probably wouldn’t have gotten to attached to the title and the characters. I responded with:
“Damn, those numbers make me sad. This just reinforces my belief that while they say different superhero comic book fans do NOT want differently told stories about new characters.
The storytelling is more like the first season of LOST than something like Blackest Night (at least what I read of BN) or Secret Invasion, which are straight forward ‘bad guys attack, good guys fight back’ stories.
It was written by an up and coming writer who was on a major project (Countdown may have sucked in spots but it was definitely major) and on a critically favored book (R.E.B.E.L.S.) instead of one of the usual suspects (I understand why Morrison, Johns, Bendis and Millar have been in charge of their respective universes, but usually I have enjoyed more of the tie-ins not written by them than their main minis).
The characters were created within the past few years instead of the past few decades. 52 was only four years ago.
The next time I see creators like Erik Larsen or Tony Harris talk about how people need to try new things, I will think back to the complete and utter failure of The Great Ten. Not only was it a sales disaster, but this failure has also proven that it makes no sense for me to support anything new in the single issue format. For the past few years, my pull list usually consists of miniseries (The Great Ten, Daytripper, Tangent: Superman’s Reign, etc) or indie books (The Sword, 28 Days Later, True Story Swear To God, etc) because I know that anything even slightly mainstream will be collected at a later date.
Now, regardless of whether I feel it is worth supporting, I will just have to wait for the trade. If it never gets collected, oh well, bad for me. And if I forget to buy the trade, then oh well, bad for them.”
I wrote that and crossposted here, so that from this moment on if anyone asks me where I stand on the “Big Two needs to freshen things up” argument, they can just read this and come to their own conclusions.
Hulk 22 (Marvel)
Incredible Hulk 609 (Marvel)
First Wave 2 (DC)
Doc Savage 2 (DC)
Superman: War of The Supermen 2 (DC)
Daytripper 6 (Vertigo)
The Green Hornet Strikes 1 (Dynamite Entertainment)
The Sword 24 (Image) – Giant Sized Series Conclusion
Magog 9 (DC)
Kato 2 (Dynamite Entertainment)
This was HUGE week for me. Not only did a bunch of books that I was looking for finally come in, but I also went to TWO shops this week and went a little crazy in the dollar bin of one of them.
New This Week:
True Story Swear To God 12 (Image Comics) – I already read and reviewed this issue. Short answer: get it now (unless you have no love in your heart, then just stick with Blackest Night/Siege).
Girl Comics 1 of 3(Marvel Comics) – Again read and reviewed. Again I recommend you pick it up.
The Great Ten 5 of 10 (DC Comics) – I still think this is the best book coming out from DC and I can’t wait to get the time to read it.
The Sword 22 (Image Comics) – This title is coming to an end soon and I will miss it.
Kevin Smith’s Green Hornet 1 (Dynamite Entertainment) – I’m looking forward to the entire sub-line of Green Hornet books.
First Wave 1 of 6 (DC Comics) – This is the only book I am not completely sold on, but I think this might surprise me.
Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep 9 (BOOM! Studios) – Still a good title and I look forward to it every month.
Age of Bronze: Betrayal Part One TPB (Image Comics) – I decided last week to switch from single issues to trades for this title.
Siege 2 of 4 (Marvel Comics) – I finally found a copy and I’m looking forward to The Sentry vs Ares.
Starman 81 (DC Comics) – Why not, I have a vast majority of the rest of the issues. I might be missing two or three. Maybe as many as six.
Nexus: Space Opera 101/102 (Rude Dude Productions) – I had not idea this even came out, which sucks because I have looking forward to each issue and I doubt there will be any others.
Naoki Urasawa’s 20th Century Boys (Viz Media) – I wanted to get Pluto Vol 1, but since they didn’t have it, I picked this up and special ordered Pluto. I want to go on record as saying that I am picking Pluto up on the recommendation of Ryan King, so if I don’t like it, I will blame him. Just kidding, I will blame Vince B.
From The Dollar Bin:
Prophet 5 and 6 (Image Comics) – The only issue of Prophet I have is 7, so it will be nice to see how we got to that point.
Incredible Herc 116/119/120/121 (Marvel Comics) – I have never read a single issue of Incredible Herc, but I heard a lot of good things about it.
War of Kings 2 of 6 (Marvel Comics) – I read the first issue and nothing after that, but I liked it and I want to check it out for a dollar.
Dazzler 26 (Marvel Comics) – I have never read an issue of Dazzler, but this one is the beginning of “The Startling Secret of Dazzler’s Sister.” Plus, there were a LOT of issues of Dazzler in the dollar bin.
Final Crisis 4 of 7 (DC Comics) – I stopped buying after issue 3, but a dollar, why not?
Justice League of America Vol 1 37 (DC Comics) – The cover is torn, but for some reason, I don’t think I have ever read this issue.
Tales of The Teen Titans 81 (DC Comics) – I got this because the creative team is Marv Wolfman, John Byrne and Jose Luis Garcia Lopez. Hall of Famer Creators FTW!!!
Imperial Guard 2 (Marvel Comics) – This has a cover date of Feb 97, but I had no idea this title even existed until I saw it for a dollar.
Fantastic Four 557 (Marvel Comics) – I missed the entire Millar/Hitch/Currie run, so when I saw it so cheaply, I thought I would check it out.
Bullet Points 1 or 5 (Marvel Comics) – I have no idea what this is about, but Tommie Lee Edwards drawing the original gray Iron Man. C’mon.
Give Me Liberty 3 (Dark Horse Comics) – Once again, never read any of the Martha Washington stuff, so why not for a dollar (notice a trend?)
Plus, even though I need about three or four long boxes, I picked up one.
After a few technical difficulties, the second episode of 2 People Talking features your hosts Angela Paman and Derek Coward talking about Scalped, Scout, the Holy Grail of Comic Books, getting back issues, Blankets, Frank Miller’s Batman books, The Saga of Swamp Thing, defending Watchmen, 2008’s superhero movies, anime influenced superhero cartoons, The Marvel Super Heroes, Watchmen Motion Comics, Derek goes temporarily senile, The SWORD, G. Willow Wilson’s Air, “Allergies and Food and that kind of stuff” and how to find and/or contact us.
This episode features the song “Swamp Ass” by Thee Corsairs.
One of the benefits of being employed is being able to afford comic books. Here is my new pull list with Detroit Comics:
The Perhapanauts (Image Comics): Probably the most underrated book being printed by one of the big companies. On top of being underrated, it is also one of the most fun.
Proof (Image Comics): There are a few elements that are very similar to The Perhapanauts, but in a much grittier way.
The Sword (Image Comics): The Luna Brothers are “go-to”s for me. Meaning, if they put it out, I’m in it for the long haul.
Madame Xanadu (Vertigo): Oddly, this is the only thing that I will be getting on a regular basis from either of the Big Two.
Nexus – (Rude Dude Productions) [not the Dark Horse stuff]: Nothing against the reprints that DH is doing, but I have the vast majority of that stuff and want to see where the story is heading.
Dynamo 5 (Image Comics): I am chuffed that Noble Causes is no more (Thanks to Barry Nugent for introducing me to the word ‘chuffed’), but this is a good substitute.
True Story Swear To God (Image Comics): One of my favorite comic books. Period.
The X-Files (Wildstorm): I have always liked the comic book version of the show than the actual TV show itself, so why not check it out?
The Walking Dead trades (Image Comics): I started reading it in trade and I see no reason to go to single issues. And I don’t want to wait for the super deluxe hardcover editions. This is perfect for me.
Atomic Robo (Red5 Comics): I like the stuff that Red5 puts out, but I cannot afford to get it all, so I want to get the best of the best. That includes this title.
Neozoic (Red5 Comics): See Atomic Robo.
Fell (Image Comics): Even if it didn’t cost $1.99, even if I didn’t do the Fellcast, even if none of that stuff matters, I would still have this on my pull list because there is only so much ass to kick and this book has the market cornered.
Love & Rockets: The New Stories (Fantagraphics): I love Love and Rockets. I would rocket it too, if I knew what that meant.
Potter’s Field (BOOM! Studios): This is one of the books that made me a Mark Waid fan and it only took about twenty years.
The Boys (Dynamite Entertainment): One of the funniest comic books out there and I don’t necessarily like funny comic books.
This list may change depending on what DC decides to do with the Legion, what Matt Wagner decides to do with Grendel and of course, when the next part of the Mage saga comes out.
Host Derek Coward finishes his look at the best of 2008 by talking about the titles that he has heard good things about but has never checked out yet, best miniseries that didn’t finish in 2008, best #1 comics of 2008 and the best graphic novels.
Related links (*-Amazon link, so help a brother out):
* Rasl Volume 1: The Drift
The Boy Who Made Silence
* House of Mystery
* Young Liars
* Captain Britain and MI:13
* Tangent: Superman’s Reign
The Infinite Horizon
Stephen King’s The Stand: Captain Trips
* The Twelve
* Love and Rockets: New Stories #1
* Madame Xanadu #1
Comic Book Comics
* Locke & Key
* Man With No Name
* Queen and Country Definitive Edition
* Noble Causes Archives
* The Walking Dead, Vol. 8: Made to Suffer
* Hellblazer: The Laughing Magician